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To: star-trek-one@yahoogroups.comFrom: rhob1960@yahoo.comDate: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 12:29:55 -0700Subject: Re: [ST1-LCN] Children on Voyager -- WAS Re:Voyager's shuttles and torpedos


I have to semi-disagree. The Cardassians rearming onthe border was what set Maxwell off. However, if he'dtaken his findings to Starfleet rather than go off onhis own, things may have worked out better for all,especially Picard. All that aside, I still likeMaxwell and consider this one of the best episodes ofTNG.--- luigi10151 <luigi10151@yahoo.com> wrote:> I'd have to disagree with your assertion that> Maxwell prevented a war.> Despite his intentions to prevent a war, he almost> started one. The> Cardassians were getting ready for war using> Maxwell's actions as an> excuse to start the war, if it wasn't for the> Enterprise doing damage> control they would have gotten their war.> -Luigi> > --- In star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com, Erick Rosson> <erosson23@...> wrote:> >> > > > He likely tried going through the proper channels,> but they likely> did not listen to him. Maxwell was willing to> sacrifice his career> and life to stop the Cardassians. Maxwell's actions> may even have> given pause to them, so in essence by violating his> orders he may have> prevented a war.Erick V. Rosson> > > > > > To: star-trek-one@...: rhob1960@...: Sat, 6 Oct> 2007 18:46:35> -0700Subject: RE: [ST1-LCN] Children on Voyager --> WAS Re:Voyager's> shuttles and torpedos> > > > > > > > > > He was a fool who disobeyed orders and nearly> caused awar at a time> when the Federation was weak from theBorg incursion.> If you admire> what he did, youwouldn't be very good in the> military. Like yourorders> or not, they are to be obeyed. There wereproper> channels to go through> and he ignored them.--- Erick Rosson <erosson23@...>> wrote:> > Captain> Maxwell was not overagressive, he was just> tired of> trying to defend> the Federation from the> Cardassians and having a> bunch of foolish>> politicians make that impossible with stupid>> treaties. The> Cardassians were shipping weapons to> the Cardassian> colonists on the> DMZ who were then> killing human colonists. I don't> blame Maxwell,>> that is likely how some of our military feel today>> about some of the> interference they get from> Washington when it comes> to defending> America.Erick> V. Rosson> > > To:> star-trek-one@...:> rhob1960@...:> Sat, 6 Oct 2007 18:33:47> -0700Subject: RE:> [ST1-LCN] Children on> Voyager --> WAS Re:Voyager's shuttles and torpedos>> > > > > Disagree.> Kirk was an explorer who happened to be> agood> military man. His> impassioned speech in Return> toTomorrow, shows that> he would rather> explore> thanfight. All the Starfleet captains are> picked for>> theirability to lead, while keeping aggresive>> tendencies incheck. The> poor captain of the Pheonix,> CaptainMaxwell,> couldn't and now he's in> a rehab> colony.Captain Jellicoe (who I liked) was> more> suited> topatrol a border than command a first> contact> mission.But he's a> rarity.--- Erick Rosson> <erosson23@...> wrote:> >> Theodore Roosevelt>> used to say, "Speak softly and> carry a big stick.">> Some Starfleet> Captains are> scientific explorers> and some of the> ones we have> seen> were military> leaders, Captain Janeway is an>> explorer. Captain>> Picard, Sisko, and Kirk are> military leaders. I>> don't know why they> made it> that way but the only> female Captain I> have seen who> I> would consider a> military leader is Captain>> Garrett.Erick V.> Rosson>> > > To: star-trek-one@...:>> dizzheart@...:> Sat, 6 Oct 2007> 20:57:24>> -0400Subject: Re: [ST1-LCN] Children on> Voyager -->> WAS> Re:Voyager's shuttles and torpedos> > > > > In a>> message dated> 10/6/2007 5:54:17 P.M. 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getpoor.com RE: [ST1-LCN] Children on Voyager -- WAS Re:Voyager's shuttles and torpedos

Captain Picard would have been clueless if not for Maxwell. Chief O'Brian served with him in the war, Maxwell was just trying to do what he thought was right for all the boys he lost in the war.Erick V. Rosson


To: star-trek-one@yahoogroups.comFrom: luigi10151@yahoo.comDate: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:42:46 +0000Subject: [ST1-LCN] Children on Voyager -- WAS Re:Voyager's shuttles and torpedos


I'm not disputing that the Cardassians were preparing for a war withthe Federation and that they would have eventually declared war if theFederation had done nothing. I'm also not disputing that Maxwell wasinstrumental in informing the Federation of the Cardassian's actions.What I disagree with is the part about Maxwell kept the Cardassiansfrom declaring war. Maxwell was actually playing into the Cardassian'shands by giving them an excuse to declare war. If Maxwell had beenallowed to do what he wanted, the Cardassians would have declared war,possibly within days. Picard stepped in and performed damage controlby stopping Maxwell, letting the Cardassians know that Maxwell wasn'tacting on orders, and telling the Cardassians that the jig is up.So it was really Picard that gave the Cardassians pause not Maxwell IMO.-Luigi--- In star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com, Erick Rosson <erosson23@...> wrote:>> > The Cardassians were using Cargo vessels to reinforce sciencestation that was actually a military Complex in a system that borderedFederation Space. Maxwell's actions may have given the Cardassianspause where I believe that if Maxwell had done nothing; theCardassians would have eventually launched a surprise attack againstFederation Space.Erick V. Rosson> > > To: star-trek-one@...: luigi10151@...: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 23:03:12+0000Subject: [ST1-LCN] Children on Voyager -- WAS Re:Voyager'sshuttles and torpedos> > > > > I'd have to disagree with your assertion that Maxwell prevented awar.Despite his intentions to prevent a war, he almost started one.TheCardassians were getting ready for war using Maxwell's actions asanexcuse to start the war, if it wasn't for the Enterprise doingdamagecontrol they would have gotten their war.-Luigi--- Instar-trek-one@yahoogroups.com, Erick Rosson <erosson23@> wrote:>> > Helikely tried going through the proper channels, but they likelydid notlisten to him. Maxwell was willing to sacrifice his careerand life tostop the Cardassians. Maxwell's actions may even havegiven pause tothem, so in essence by violating his orders he may haveprevented awar.Erick V. Rosson> > > To: star-trek-one@: rhob1960@: Sat, 6 Oct2007 18:46:35-0700Subject: RE: [ST1-LCN] Children on Voyager -- WASRe:Voyager'sshuttles and torpedos> > > > > He was a fool who disobeyedorders and nearly caused awar at a timewhen the Federation was weakfrom theBorg incursion. If you admirewhat he did, youwouldn't be verygood in the military. Like yourordersor not, they are to be obeyed.There wereproper channels to go throughand he ignored them.--- ErickRosson <erosson23@> wrote:> > CaptainMaxwell was not overagressive, hewas just> tired of trying to defendthe Federation from the>Cardassians and having a bunch of foolish>politicians make thatimpossible with stupid> treaties. TheCardassians were shipping weaponsto> the Cardassian colonists on theDMZ who were then> killing humancolonists. I don't blame Maxwell,>that is likely how some of ourmilitary feel today> about some of theinterference they get from>Washington when it comes to defendingAmerica.Erick> V. Rosson> > > To:star-trek-one@:> rhob1960@:Sat, 6 Oct 2007 18:33:47> -0700Subject: RE:[ST1-LCN] Children onVoyager --> WAS Re:Voyager's shuttles andtorpedos> > > > > Disagree.Kirk was an explorer who happened to be>agood military man. Hisimpassioned speech in Return> toTomorrow, showsthat he would ratherexplore> thanfight. All the Starfleet captains arepicked for>theirability to lead, while keeping aggresive> tendenciesincheck. Thepoor captain of the Pheonix,> CaptainMaxwell, couldn't andnow he's ina rehab> colony.Captain Jellicoe (who I liked) was more>suitedtopatrol a border than command a first> contact mission.But he'sararity.--- Erick Rosson> <erosson23@> wrote:> > TheodoreRoosevelt>used to say, "Speak softly and> carry a big stick."> SomeStarfleetCaptains are> scientific explorers> and some of the ones wehave> seenwere military> leaders, Captain Janeway is an> explorer.Captain>Picard, Sisko, and Kirk are> military leaders. I> don't knowwhy theymade it> that way but the only> female Captain I have seenwho> Iwould consider a> military leader is Captain> Garrett.ErickV.Rosson>> > > To: star-trek-one@:>> dizzheart@: Sat, 6 Oct200720:57:24>> -0400Subject: Re: [ST1-LCN] Children on Voyager -->>WASRe:Voyager's shuttles and torpedos> > > > > In a> messagedated10/6/2007 5:54:17 P.M. Pacific>> Daylight Time, rhob1960@...:Yesit> does> and that's where Gene and I go in>>seperatedirections.Starfleet should have been>>themilitary/exploration arm, but thereshould have>> beenmore civilianmanned ships ie. 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getpoor.com RE: [ST1-LCN] Re: Star Trek Games

Yeah I was angry.Erick V. Rosson


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Agreed. If I'd paid total price for that, I'd havebeen really angry.--- Erick Rosson <erosson23@hotmail.com> wrote:> > The worst ST Game I ever played was for the PS2 it> was called ST: Shattered Universe. It was> stupid.Erick V. Rosson> > > To: star-trek-one@yahoogroups.comFrom:> slemmett@graffiti.netDate: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 00:34:13> +0000Subject: [ST1-LCN] Re: Star Trek Games> > > > > I've not been impressed with any Trek games since> Elite Force. I loved ST: Legacy, but it took a while> to figure out & seemed to be really dated. I own a> few of the ST games, all on either PS, PS2, or PS3,> but most are either really poorly done or are good> until you lose interest in them.--- In> star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com, Erick Rosson> <erosson23@...> wrote:>> > Yeah but it was easily> superior to the ST Games that came before it.Erick> V. Rosson> > > To: star-trek-one@...: rob_easom@...:> Wed, 10 Oct 2007 06:47:32 +0000Subject: Re:> [ST1-LCN] Star Trek Games> > > > > I kind of like> that game but it still isn't on par with other great> games out there----- Original Message ----From:> Erick Rosson <erosson23@...>To: star-trek-one@...:> Sunday, 7 October, 2007 11:19:27 PMSubject: RE:> [ST1-LCN] Star Trek GamesWhat about ST: Legacy, that> game is awesome. It is also the only ST Game to have> all 5 Captains.Erick V. RossonTo: star-trek-one@> yahoogroups. comFrom: rob_easom@yahoo. co.ukDate:> Sun, 7 Oct 2007 18:20:03 +0000Subject: [ST1-LCN]> Star Trek GamesHas anyone noticed the lack of decent> Star Trek games out there. Since the realease of> Star Trek Voyager Elite Force there has been hardly> any games that were worthy of the mantle of Star> Trek. even the newest games are really not as good> as earlier gamesStar Trek Shattered Universe is> similar to Star Trek invasion with a decent> storyline but the gameplay is shocking for such a> decent storyline.Also the most recent games for the> PC,PS2 Xbox and DS are not up to par. Is there ever> going to be a Star Trek Game realeased that will> make us all sit up and take notice. Live Long and> ProsperRob > > > > > > >__________________________________________________________> Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks & Treats for You!> http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us> > [Non-text portions of this message have been> removed]> > > > NEED TO UNSUBSCRIBE? > * Send a blank e> mailto:star-trek-one-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> HOMEPAGES, RULES, PETITIONS, POLLS, CHAT, OUR OTHER> LISTS> *><"http://www.firstuniversal.clara.net/star-trek-one.htm">> * <"http://www.lcarscom.net">> STAR-TREK-ONE DVD/cd/audio-books/VHS> *><"http://www.firstuniversal.clara.net/star-trek-one-dvd.htm">> TV & MOVIE T-SHIRT & MERCHANDISE WAREHOUSE><"http://www.firstuniversal.clara.net/tv-and-movie-warehouse.htm">> <CENTER>> <IFRAME>SRC="http://affiliates.allposters.com/iframe/CategoryPages/7144_1.asp?aid=102392&order=h&images=3"> HEIGHT="185" WIDTH="460" scrolling="no"> frameborder="0">> <a>href="http://affiliates.allposters.com/link/redirect.asp?aid=102392&c=c&search=7144"> target="_top">> <img>src="http://images.allposters.com/images/banners/affil_banner_red_2.gif"> border="0">> </a><br><font face="verdana, helvetica, arial"> size="1">> <a>href="http://affiliates.allposters.com/link/redirect.asp?aid=102392&c=c&search=7144"> target="_top">> Buy Posters and Prints at> AllPosters.com!</a></font></IFRAME>> > Yahoo! Groups Links> > > mailto:star-trek-one-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com> > > "People shouldn't fear their governments. Governments should fear their people."V From V For Vendetta__________________________________________________________Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV.http://tv.yahoo.com/


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getpoor.com RE: [ST1-LCN] Children on Voyager -- WAS Re:Voyager's shuttles and torpedos

I think he likely tried going to Starfleet, I think that his actions in attacking the Cardassians were after months and months of Starfleet dragging it's backside.Erick V. Rosson


To: star-trek-one@yahoogroups.comFrom: luigi10151@yahoo.comDate: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:50:20 +0000Subject: [ST1-LCN] Children on Voyager -- WAS Re:Voyager's shuttles and torpedos


Actually we're in complete agreement I think. I was saying that hisactions after finding about the Cardassians (for example firing onCardassian ships) was causing the problem, not his finding out aboutthe Cardassians. Like you said if he had gone to Starfleet Command rather than firingon Cardassian ships the situation may have turned out better.-Luigi--- In star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com, Rob <rhob1960@...> wrote:>> I have to semi-disagree. The Cardassians rearming on> the border was what set Maxwell off. However, if he'd> taken his findings to Starfleet rather than go off on> his own, things may have worked out better for all,> especially Picard. All that aside, I still like> Maxwell and consider this one of the best episodes of> TNG.> > --- luigi10151 <luigi10151@...> wrote:> > > I'd have to disagree with your assertion that> > Maxwell prevented a war.> > Despite his intentions to prevent a war, he almost> > started one. The> > Cardassians were getting ready for war using> > Maxwell's actions as an> > excuse to start the war, if it wasn't for the> > Enterprise doing damage> > control they would have gotten their war.> > -Luigi> > > > --- In star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com, Erick Rosson> > <erosson23@> wrote:> > >> > > > > > He likely tried going through the proper channels,> > but they likely> > did not listen to him. Maxwell was willing to> > sacrifice his career> > and life to stop the Cardassians. Maxwell's actions> > may even have> > given pause to them, so in essence by violating his> > orders he may have> > prevented a war.Erick V. Rosson> > > > > > > > > To: star-trek-one@: rhob1960@: Sat, 6 Oct> > 2007 18:46:35> > -0700Subject: RE: [ST1-LCN] Children on Voyager --> > WAS Re:Voyager's> > shuttles and torpedos> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He was a fool who disobeyed orders and nearly> > caused awar at a time> > when the Federation was weak from theBorg incursion.> > If you admire> > what he did, youwouldn't be very good in the> > military. Like yourorders> > or not, they are to be obeyed. There wereproper> > channels to go through> > and he ignored them.--- Erick Rosson <erosson23@>> > wrote:> > Captain> > Maxwell was not overagressive, he was just> tired of> > trying to defend> > the Federation from the> Cardassians and having a> > bunch of foolish>> > politicians make that impossible with stupid>> > treaties. The> > Cardassians were shipping weapons to> the Cardassian> > colonists on the> > DMZ who were then> killing human colonists. I don't> > blame Maxwell,>> > that is likely how some of our military feel today>> > about some of the> > interference they get from> Washington when it comes> > to defending> > America.Erick> V. Rosson> > > To:> > star-trek-one@:> rhob1960@:> > Sat, 6 Oct 2007 18:33:47> -0700Subject: RE:> > [ST1-LCN] Children on> > Voyager --> WAS Re:Voyager's shuttles and torpedos>> > > > > > Disagree.> > Kirk was an explorer who happened to be> agood> > military man. His> > impassioned speech in Return> toTomorrow, shows that> > he would rather> > explore> thanfight. All the Starfleet captains are> > picked for>> > theirability to lead, while keeping aggresive>> > tendencies incheck. The> > poor captain of the Pheonix,> CaptainMaxwell,> > couldn't and now he's in> > a rehab> colony.Captain Jellicoe (who I liked) was> > more> suited> > topatrol a border than command a first> contact> > mission.But he's a> > rarity.--- Erick Rosson> <erosson23@> wrote:> >> > Theodore Roosevelt>> > used to say, "Speak softly and> carry a big stick.">> > Some Starfleet> > Captains are> scientific explorers> and some of the> > ones we have> seen> > were military> leaders, Captain Janeway is an>> > explorer. Captain>> > Picard, Sisko, and Kirk are> military leaders. I>> > don't know why they> > made it> that way but the only> female Captain I> > have seen who> I> > would consider a> military leader is Captain>> > Garrett.Erick V.> > Rosson>> > > To: star-trek-one@:>> dizzheart@:> > Sat, 6 Oct 2007> > 20:57:24>> -0400Subject: Re: [ST1-LCN] Children on> > Voyager -->> WAS> > Re:Voyager's shuttles and torpedos> > > > > In a>> > message dated> > 10/6/2007 5:54:17 P.M. 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