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Yeah that is one way to put it.Erick V. Rosson

To: star-trek-one@yahoogroups.comFrom: ths1992@online.noDate: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:49:11 +0200Subject: Re: [ST1-LCN] Children on Voyager -- WAS Re:Voyager's shuttles and torpedos

Who is Maxwell? The captain of the Nebula class cruiser that went rouge?Live Long and ProsperCaptain ThomasCommanding OfficerUSS Voyager NCC 74656----- Original Message ----- From: Rob To: star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 9:29 PMSubject: Re: [ST1-LCN] Children on Voyager -- WAS Re:Voyager's shuttles and torpedosI have to semi-disagree. The Cardassians rearming onthe border was what set Maxwell off. However, if he'dtaken his findings to Starfleet rather than go off onhis own, things may have worked out better for all,especially Picard. All that aside, I still likeMaxwell and consider this one of the best episodes ofTNG.--- luigi10151 <luigi10151@yahoo.com> wrote:> I'd have to disagree with your assertion that> Maxwell prevented a war.> Despite his intentions to prevent a war, he almost> started one. The> Cardassians were getting ready for war using> Maxwell's actions as an> excuse to start the war, if it wasn't for the> Enterprise doing damage> control they would have gotten their war.> -Luigi> > --- In star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com, Erick Rosson> <erosson23@...> wrote:> >> > > > He likely tried going through the proper channels,> but they likely> did not listen to him. Maxwell was willing to> sacrifice his career> and life to stop the Cardassians. Maxwell's actions> may even have> given pause to them, so in essence by violating his> orders he may have> prevented a war.Erick V. Rosson> > > > > > To: star-trek-one@...: rhob1960@...: Sat, 6 Oct> 2007 18:46:35> -0700Subject: RE: [ST1-LCN] Children on Voyager --> WAS Re:Voyager's> shuttles and torpedos> > > > > > > > > > He was a fool who disobeyed orders and nearly> caused awar at a time> when the Federation was weak from theBorg incursion.> If you admire> what he did, youwouldn't be very good in the> military. Like yourorders> or not, they are to be obeyed. There wereproper> channels to go through> and he ignored them.--- Erick Rosson <erosson23@...>> wrote:> > Captain> Maxwell was not overagressive, he was just> tired of> trying to defend> the Federation from the> Cardassians and having a> bunch of foolish>> politicians make that impossible with stupid>> treaties. The> Cardassians were shipping weapons to> the Cardassian> colonists on the> DMZ who were then> killing human colonists. I don't> blame Maxwell,>> that is likely how some of our military feel today>> about some of the> interference they get from> Washington when it comes> to defending> America.Erick> V. Rosson> > > To:> star-trek-one@...:> rhob1960@...:> Sat, 6 Oct 2007 18:33:47> -0700Subject: RE:> [ST1-LCN] Children on> Voyager --> WAS Re:Voyager's shuttles and torpedos>> > > > > Disagree.> Kirk was an explorer who happened to be> agood> military man. His> impassioned speech in Return> toTomorrow, shows that> he would rather> explore> thanfight. All the Starfleet captains are> picked for>> theirability to lead, while keeping aggresive>> tendencies incheck. The> poor captain of the Pheonix,> CaptainMaxwell,> couldn't and now he's in> a rehab> colony.Captain Jellicoe (who I liked) was> more> suited> topatrol a border than command a first> contact> mission.But he's a> rarity.--- Erick Rosson> <erosson23@...> wrote:> >> Theodore Roosevelt>> used to say, "Speak softly and> carry a big stick.">> Some Starfleet> Captains are> scientific explorers> and some of the> ones we have> seen> were military> leaders, Captain Janeway is an>> explorer. Captain>> Picard, Sisko, and Kirk are> military leaders. I>> don't know why they> made it> that way but the only> female Captain I> have seen who> I> would consider a> military leader is Captain>> Garrett.Erick V.> Rosson>> > > To: star-trek-one@...:>> dizzheart@...:> Sat, 6 Oct 2007> 20:57:24>> -0400Subject: Re: [ST1-LCN] Children on> Voyager -->> WAS> Re:Voyager's shuttles and torpedos> > > > > In a>> message dated> 10/6/2007 5:54:17 P.M. Pacific>> Daylight Time,> rhob1960@...> writes:Yes it> does> and that's where Gene and I go> in>>> seperatedirections. Starfleet should have been>>> themilitary/exploration arm, but there should have>>> beenmore civilian> manned ships ie. 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